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A criticism of the Justice for women website:

It is a pity that one of the most modern citation is Jane Mooney's
North London study (1994). This involved only a few hundred women - possibly
less than 500 (from memory). Her "study" is cited at page 13 of 'Counting
the Costs' by Betsy Stanko - so it must immediately become suspect.

Mooney's survey in Islington found that 37% of women reported some form of
domestic violence and 1 in 4 reported being injured from domestic violence
in their lifetime - which is a meaningless in statistical terms.

McGibbon et al survey (1989) (again less than 500) in Hammersmith showed
that of 281 respondees 39% had experience verbal or physical abuse by a

Dominy and Radford (1996) - also a survey of less than 500 - found that they
had to add in a significant number of women who had suffered domestic
violence where the women themselves (15%) did not view it as such (with
regard to this I refer you to a recent feminist article relating to a slap
not constituting DV).

Of the above, only Mooney's was randomly distributed to women.
The large StatsCan survey was a phone poll - a notoriously unreliable
method - and at no time are we told the questions of any of the above

But the Justice for Women website isn't even this up to date. It cites
surveys from the 1980s.

Wallace (1986)
Browne (1987)
Cynthia Gillespie (1989)
Wilson and Daly (1992)

Again, in the case of the Wilson and Daly (1992) citation, referring to
their strenuous calculations, I hardly think figures for homicide rate in
1977 to 1986 are relevant.
The Web page dwells at length on US and Canadian laws, but US law is very
dissimilar to ours and Canada has thrown out common law in favour of a
constitutional premise that makes their relevance to the UK highly marginal.

What we know today, i.e. 2002 -03, is that women are far more violent, are
being locked up more often, are assaulting more frequently.
As regards men murdering partners at the rate of 2 per week, modern figures
indicate that women have increased their slaughter rate to almost 1 male
partner per week.
Is there a corresponding increase for men? It seems doubtful from the

If far more men murder their partners (note, not spouses) is it any wonder
there is likely to be more claims of provocation - or have all of us on this
list missed a vital arithmetic lesson when we were children.

To see their website go to:

Robert Whiston.


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